tony, i don't know how much bandwidth you have available, but our entire
rack with several shared and dedicated web servers, the surgemail
machine which has 800+ accounts and dns, and our secondary dns server
uses approx 8Mb (in and out) at the 95th percentile.
david
On 3/9/2011 10:40 AM, Tony Zakula wrote:
> Yes, we are pretty much in the same boat. I thought about not
> offering email altogether, but did not think that would fly. :-) We
> are not big enough to have gobbs of bandwidth yet either.
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:23 AM, David CammHIDDEN@advwebsys.com> wrote:
>> i'm in a similar situation - i think. unlike most of the folk who populate
>> this list, i'm not 'mail-centric.' we provide email as a convenience to our
>> web site customers. we have a few customers who have large numbers of
>> accounts and those we charge anywhere from $2 to $3 per mailbox per month.
>> it's certainly not a revenue generator, but the beauty of using surgemail is
>> that it just sits there and runs, so it doesn't take much for us to support
>> it.
>>
>> i don't know what your business (or configuration) is, but if you're truly
>> concerned about the mail server sucking large amounts of bandwidth, you
>> might consider putting a limiter in front of it. i also believe there are
>> parameters in the configuration you can adjust, but i've not used them, so i
>> don't know what they are.
>>
>> david camm
>> advanced web systems
>> keller, tx
>>
>>
>> On 3/8/2011 6:44 PM, Tony Zakula wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you for the responses. I was planning to bill/setup a limit for
>>> bandwidth per customer. However, the way I have it now, I have one ip
>>> address and am using virtual hosts on surgemail. I guess I did not
>>> really think about how to account for mail traffic. I could see not
>>> really worrying about it, but what if you have a customer getting and
>>> sending tons of messages. I was planning to offer 10 free email
>>> accounts and then charge a fee for everyone above that. I am still at
>>> a low number of customers so nothing is a problem yet, but just trying
>>> to think ahead.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:21 PM, David CammHIDDEN@advwebsys.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> the real question, imho, is what you want to measure. and what you want
>>>> to
>>>> bill for.
>>>>
>>>> when someone sends a message to one of your customers, that message is x
>>>> bytes. when your customer sends a message to an external server, that's y
>>>> bytes.
>>>>
>>>> if your customer uses pop to download messages to a client, he (she)
>>>> downloads n bytes in that download.
>>>>
>>>> if they use surgeweb, they transfer z bytes during a session, which of
>>>> course, includes the web pages.
>>>>
>>>> if they use imap at all, then disk utilization may be a billable resource
>>>> -
>>>> i had one customer who accumulated over 5G of messages and never realized
>>>> they needed to prune things once in a while. i wonder how long it took to
>>>> load their inbox....
>>>>
>>>> bytes of thruput can be converted to bandwidth - i BELIEVE 221Gb of
>>>> transfer
>>>> in one month is equivalent to 1Mb/sec.
>>>>
>>>> i frankly don't know where or whether this info is available in the
>>>> myriad
>>>> of logs. but, if it is, it is certainly possible to extract it with some
>>>> neat grepping and perl scripting.
>>>>
>>>> we do this on our shared web servers for customers with heavy ftp
>>>> traffic.
>>>> on the first of the month, we look at the ftp transfer logs for the
>>>> previous
>>>> month and accumulate transferred bytes (in and out) by user. we can then
>>>> bill based on total transfer. we even keep history in a little mysql
>>>> database.
>>>>
>>>> david camm
>>>> advanced web systems
>>>> keller, tx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/8/2011 5:00 PM, VinnyHIDDEN@@Dell.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't, but if you had each domain on a different IP address, you could
>>>>> easily turn on ip accounting on a Cisco device and measure it via
>>>>> SNMP... or
>>>>> just via the Cisco CLI.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Vinny
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Tony Zakula [mailtoHIDDEN@kula@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:57 PM
>>>>> To: surgemailHIDDEN@etwinsite.com
>>>>> Subject: [SurgeMail List] Bandwidth Accounting
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone do bandwidth accounting for their email services?
>>>>> Especially if you are running lots of domains on one mail server and web
>>>>> services on other servers? If so, what do you use to measure per
>>>>> customer?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony Z
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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