Paul, that is great. I will check it out.
David, thanks for those numbers. I have a 3mb line with 5 dedicated
machines so far and the surgemail box with 20 users or so. No DNS. I
know that I am not overwhelming my bandwidth, but I am just getting
going and trying to ensure a high quality experience and solid service
like you guys are. So maybe I am worrying too much. I am still
working on my QOS, accounting, and routing infrastructure. Thanks for
sharing!
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:07 PM, David Camm HIDDEN@advwebsys.com> wrote:
> tony, i don't know how much bandwidth you have available, but our entire
> rack with several shared and dedicated web servers, the surgemail machine
> which has 800+ accounts and dns, and our secondary dns server uses approx
> 8Mb (in and out) at the 95th percentile.
>
> david
>
> On 3/9/2011 10:40 AM, Tony Zakula wrote:
>>
>> Yes, we are pretty much in the same boat. I thought about not
>> offering email altogether, but did not think that would fly. :-) We
>> are not big enough to have gobbs of bandwidth yet either.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:23 AM, David CammHIDDEN@advwebsys.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> i'm in a similar situation - i think. unlike most of the folk who
>>> populate
>>> this list, i'm not 'mail-centric.' we provide email as a convenience to
>>> our
>>> web site customers. we have a few customers who have large numbers of
>>> accounts and those we charge anywhere from $2 to $3 per mailbox per
>>> month.
>>> it's certainly not a revenue generator, but the beauty of using surgemail
>>> is
>>> that it just sits there and runs, so it doesn't take much for us to
>>> support
>>> it.
>>>
>>> i don't know what your business (or configuration) is, but if you're
>>> truly
>>> concerned about the mail server sucking large amounts of bandwidth, you
>>> might consider putting a limiter in front of it. i also believe there are
>>> parameters in the configuration you can adjust, but i've not used them,
>>> so i
>>> don't know what they are.
>>>
>>> david camm
>>> advanced web systems
>>> keller, tx
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/8/2011 6:44 PM, Tony Zakula wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the responses. I was planning to bill/setup a limit for
>>>> bandwidth per customer. However, the way I have it now, I have one ip
>>>> address and am using virtual hosts on surgemail. I guess I did not
>>>> really think about how to account for mail traffic. I could see not
>>>> really worrying about it, but what if you have a customer getting and
>>>> sending tons of messages. I was planning to offer 10 free email
>>>> accounts and then charge a fee for everyone above that. I am still at
>>>> a low number of customers so nothing is a problem yet, but just trying
>>>> to think ahead.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:21 PM, David CammHIDDEN@advwebsys.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> the real question, imho, is what you want to measure. and what you want
>>>>> to
>>>>> bill for.
>>>>>
>>>>> when someone sends a message to one of your customers, that message is
>>>>> x
>>>>> bytes. when your customer sends a message to an external server, that's
>>>>> y
>>>>> bytes.
>>>>>
>>>>> if your customer uses pop to download messages to a client, he (she)
>>>>> downloads n bytes in that download.
>>>>>
>>>>> if they use surgeweb, they transfer z bytes during a session, which of
>>>>> course, includes the web pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> if they use imap at all, then disk utilization may be a billable
>>>>> resource
>>>>> -
>>>>> i had one customer who accumulated over 5G of messages and never
>>>>> realized
>>>>> they needed to prune things once in a while. i wonder how long it took
>>>>> to
>>>>> load their inbox....
>>>>>
>>>>> bytes of thruput can be converted to bandwidth - i BELIEVE 221Gb of
>>>>> transfer
>>>>> in one month is equivalent to 1Mb/sec.
>>>>>
>>>>> i frankly don't know where or whether this info is available in the
>>>>> myriad
>>>>> of logs. but, if it is, it is certainly possible to extract it with
>>>>> some
>>>>> neat grepping and perl scripting.
>>>>>
>>>>> we do this on our shared web servers for customers with heavy ftp
>>>>> traffic.
>>>>> on the first of the month, we look at the ftp transfer logs for the
>>>>> previous
>>>>> month and accumulate transferred bytes (in and out) by user. we can
>>>>> then
>>>>> bill based on total transfer. we even keep history in a little mysql
>>>>> database.
>>>>>
>>>>> david camm
>>>>> advanced web systems
>>>>> keller, tx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/8/2011 5:00 PM, VinnyHIDDEN@@Dell.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't, but if you had each domain on a different IP address, you
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> easily turn on ip accounting on a Cisco device and measure it via
>>>>>> SNMP... or
>>>>>> just via the Cisco CLI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Vinny
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Tony Zakula [mailtoHIDDEN@kula@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:57 PM
>>>>>> To: surgemailHIDDEN@etwinsite.com
>>>>>> Subject: [SurgeMail List] Bandwidth Accounting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone do bandwidth accounting for their email services?
>>>>>> Especially if you are running lots of domains on one mail server and
>>>>>> web
>>>>>> services on other servers? If so, what do you use to measure per
>>>>>> customer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tony Z
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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